Mar
24
2011

The Weekly Debate (15): Is there such a thing as a "good" book?

Damnit. I am officially wrung dry of creative juices for these weekly debates.
Public Service Announcement: I apologize in advance for any weekly debates that seem more like weekly questions. No trauma is intended.


But onto the real issue at hand, does a "good" book really exist? In my IB Theory of Knowledge class, we have internal assessments due next week, in which we give a lecture on a "knowledge issue." Being the music fuh-reak that I am, I decided last week to question what makes music "good." And as I now sit down and begin planning my presentation, why couldn't that theory also apply to books?

The way I see it, the issue lies in whether "good" can be judged objectively. My opinion? No. I think there are obvious similarities between the books that are deemed "good," such as the strong heroine we all seem to admire, the tantalizing romance, and the enthralling writing, yet those don't necessitate that a book is good. A book can be appreciated for its literary features, perhaps being called "strong," "solid," "stunning," but would you say any of those words carry the same connotations as "good?" The greatest critics can call a book "the epitome of English language" and it still might not be "good." *coughHeartofDarknesscough*

I suppose all these quotations on "good" lead me to attempting -- keyword: attempting -- to define the concept of goodness. How much does the media or our surroundings affect us when we try to judge something as "good?" Is there absolutely no doubt in your mind that you can read a glowing Kirkus review, read the book, then review the book/give your thoughts on the book while honestly saying your opinion hasn't been affected by outside sources? I know that for all I try, I can't say that. And if we judge books by emotional appeal, don't even get me started on the subjectivity. So perhaps the key here is that "good" itself is abstract and not inherent; it depends on what standards you define something by.

Yet, if a "good" book is so subjective, what's the use in book blogs? For readers, I would say finding someone with similar tastes to yourself, but that kind of goes without saying. Don't go off trusting that 5+++ star review -- even if it's mine -- because it says a book is "good." For bloggers, that's exactly why I say remain true to yourself. It's not about mob-gushing about how "good" a book is, it's you and the book, then you sharing your opinions. And you know what? We get that. Or I at least hope all authors can.

Anyways, excuse my rambling. What do you think? Am I too pessimistic? Am I just stating the obvious? Do you disagree? Do I ask too many rhetorical questions? If you're wondering, the answer to the last one is a resounding YES.

All-in-all, even if this wasn't quite coherent, I think I have a good idea for where I'm starting my lecture on (definitely opening with clips of Justin Beiber and analyzing whether he's "good"). Now, as for you...

I ask: Is there such a thing as a "good" book?

**Note: Please be aware I am not under the impression that some author and books are not shoot-me-now, pure genius. This "good" concept just gives me an itch.

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Dang, my brain hurts. (and there's a word limit to intesedebate :o)
The first thing I thought of when I saw the title would be, what about "is there such thing as a BAD book". I know I've probably heard that somewhere, because it does go back to the subjectivity of good and bad, and the relativity of the two. Without something to compare something to, there really isn't a good or bad, there just IS. But when you've got a comparison going on, you've got 'good' and 'bad'.
But i think that at the end of the day, we're just here to give opinions. We call books good because we've enjoyed them, or through our own judgement we've decided it has literary merit. we decide something is bad based on its relationship with what we had deemed was good.

ech, sorry for the extreme rambly ness of this comment. Just things spilling outta my brain :p
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Aww, I hope your brain feels better. *pats brain*

And, no, that all made sense! I like how you put it better, haha. And I completely agree, though that doesn't give me much to talk about... so for my presentation I think I'll be pulling in different examples and defining societal standards.

I wonder if anyone DOESN'T agree? :o
I agree with you. I don't think there IS a solid definition for what we consider a "good" movie or a "good" book or a "good" song. I think you worded it perfectly: "the key here is that "good" itself is abstract and not inherent; it depends on what standards you define something " Opinion is abstract, therefore everything can be considered good AND bad. It's really the eye of the beholder that matters.
In a writing class once I argued about what makes writing good. I felt that what makes writing good is very subjective to the person reading it. From my professors stand point which was how teachers assess writing, there are very specific aspects to writing that need to be considered in judging a piece of writing as good. I do get that, but as your question probes, for me, I still feel that writing when read by the reader has a certain amount of subjectivity because the reader brings so much of him or her self to the experience. Good books, therefore, are based on the qualities used to assess their goodness, and those qualities may be different to each reader. Consequently, I like your advice for book bloggers to stay true to themselves, and express your opinions so others can see what qualities made the book good in your eyes.
I'd try to say something witty and brilliant here, but my fever is making it difficult for me to even sound remotely smart right now ;)

Very intriguing post though, Jenn.
Not objectively, no. But if you're asking for my personal opinion, yes of course ;)
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Well said! Good, bad, or indifferent, it comes down to a matter of taste. A book/song/movie is "good" if you enjoy it.

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